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station houston on two are you ready for

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houston we are ready for the event

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jscpao please call the station for a

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voice check

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station this is jscpao how do you hear

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jsc good to hear you we hear you loud

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and clear

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gina cinceri abc news let me start with

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uh ron uh the observations you have made

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from the space station of the ver the

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hurricanes the tropical storms the

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typhoons and we're hoping you'll get

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some video of the fires over texas later

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today have really been truly astonishing

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video so tell me from your perspective

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up there when you're looking at these

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powerful storms

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you know how you feel about that and

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your response to it we've heard a little

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bit i'd like you to go into a little

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sure um actually i'm just the junior

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weather apprentice my mike is the uh

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mike has been doing most of that i've

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been uh focusing on taking pictures when

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uh mike has been uh primarily focusing

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on the video but i could tell you

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um you know it's scary from up here as

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destruction that they can wreak as they

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pass across land is is just really

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awe-inspiring from up here and it's uh

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it's terrifying mike did you want to add

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that well yeah i want to add to it three

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years ago right around now

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you and i and our families were ripping

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all of the carpet and the furniture and

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everything out of ron's house in houston

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because he had three and a half feet of

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water in it from a hurricane so they're

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scary on the ground and they're scary to

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we're aware of the negotiations and the

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research and the investigation going

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into the failure of the progress launch

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and the impact that could have on you

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what additional training are you getting

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for possibly having to demand the space

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just as the the investigation is is

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second week now there's a lot of work

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yet to do in that arena the the teams

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efforts going on to to look at all of

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the different options that are that

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first obviously we're going to have a

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short handover with the new crew if any

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station without people on it for a

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to that except for maybe documenting

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some of the the things that we do on

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video so that we can you know use video

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products for part of the training for

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the next crew we'll be getting into the

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details of what it takes to turn out the

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lights uh in the weeks ahead

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and ron one last question for me for you

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fragile oasis how does seeing it from up

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there bring home to you how fragile this

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earth um you know we've we've been

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saying this for 50 years we've been

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coming to space for 50 years and uh you

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that they're they're just uh struck by

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the by the fragility of our of our

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not we can see a border from space the

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earth and empathize with the with the

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struggles and the challenges that

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everybody faces on the planet and that's

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apparent up here is when you look down

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which really is indescribable and and hd

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cameras and and everything that we have

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realities for life on

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life on our planet for a lot of its

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inhabitants and and i think you know

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together that we've got big big

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challenges to solve on our planet

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cooperation that we've proven uh on the

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international space station and this

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amazing uh research facility that we

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that we have built so um a really good

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question and uh um you know i'm looking

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forward to to try and you know explain

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as best i can when i get back to earth

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this is jill tolk representing the times

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trade room newspaper in scranton

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pennsylvania

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a two-part question for ron

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how would you describe the importance of

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hometown support for station astronauts

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your wife's relatives have supported you

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and her from scranton over the past six

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it's a wonderful wonderful place very

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lot of technology to keep us connected

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not uh seeing flocks of birds fly by

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experiencing life on earth and it's uh

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get from our hometown and from our

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family and our friends and i have

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regular contact uh with family members

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pennsylvania i'm there at the you know

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philadelphia what would you like to

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the whole crew of the of sts-135 the

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whole crew of the space station we were

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the end of the shuttle uh program on one

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we're very excited about the discoveries

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one of the points of pride with the

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space station has been its continuous

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human presence a record of now more than

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symbolic only or do you see a

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substantial value in having a crew

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you know i think that it's a it's a

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source of pride the fact that we've kept

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blog that the fall 2001 tv season is the

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first time there'll be no tv show

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featuring people on spaceships

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do you feel there's a risk of the public

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starting to de-associate humans

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with space exploration and what do you

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think can or should be done to reverse

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boy i'll give that a try

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is there is there a risk perhaps um you

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know there's there's really nothing that

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beats i mean the the power and majesty

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of a space shuttle launch to get your

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attention uh as i mean off of you know

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american soil and that that's really an

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attention-getter it's huge it's dramatic

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uh and it's over for now uh and so it's

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a little different when we're taking off

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on a different rocket on you know in a

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foreign land

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and so i understand that but you know

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we're not here for publicity or you know

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those kind of things we're here to get a

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job done our nation asks us to do this

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and we're here to do that job to take

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care of the space station and to produce

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the results from the all of the

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different experiments and investigations

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that are ongoing to the best of our

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ability

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i think that you know we need to

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continue to do a good job of telling the

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story explaining why we're here and what

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we're doing as well as sharing some of

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the adventure of space looking out the

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windows to marvel at the planet below us

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and uh i was speaking with apollo 15

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command module pilot al warden who spoke

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about the value of putting humans into

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lunar orbit to do observations of the

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surface below of course the space

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station serves a similar purpose for

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observing the earth

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but so do satellites so what do you see

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as the advantage of having a human

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behind the camera

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in other words yourself that satellites

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robert that's a really good question um

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and it kind of goes

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you know it's very similar to the

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question that mike just answered um you

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know we've always had robotic

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exploration we've and we've had human

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exploration and i think what we're

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seeing now and what we're proving now is

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that the most effective form of

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exploration is a collaborative uh uh

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form

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with both robotics and humans together

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uh and i and i think we're really seeing

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that now

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earth earth uh observation satellites

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are you know serve a wonderful role and

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uh they're very important but uh you

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know there is something to be said for

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you know looking out the window and

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spotting a fire and uh you know grabbing

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a camera and taking a picture uh just

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because we happen to be here and we

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happen to be looking out the window uh

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there's also you know a feeling that you

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can get when you're up here and you we

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try as best we can with our video and

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our and our cameras to to capture that

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feeling to to capture uh not just the

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views not just the you know the ones and

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zeros on the digital uh media that we

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have here but to actually capture this

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moment capture this experience uh as

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best we can uh to try and show you what

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we're seeing and you really can't do

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that from a from an earth a satellite

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being controlled from the earth because

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it's it's just a different view that

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that person who's controlling that or

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that that algorithm that computer

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program that's controlling that is not

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hi i'm mark caro for aviation week and

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space technology and i'm just wondering

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if you if you have already taken or you

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will soon take any measures to sort of

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enhance

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either general operations or science

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research on the station for a period of

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time if you do have to unstaff the space

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station are you doing some things to

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sort of

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keep it operating as best it can keep

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the scientists

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active as best they can be if there is

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no one on the station for a short period

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hey mark it's great to hear your voice

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today

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so far we have not begun any of those

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actions on the space station it's uh the

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the teams in houston are in the

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preliminary stages of deciding

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everything from what ventilation we're

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going to be we're going to leave running

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what lights we're going to leave on

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what condition each particular

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experiment will be on every tank every

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valve every hatch there's a lot to do

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and they're they're just beginning that

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work right now uh and i it's it's too

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early for us to get too worried about

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that frankly it'll take us you know a

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few weeks

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uh to uh to finish that up but we have

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another nine or so weeks here uh my crew

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of three

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so we've got plenty of time for those

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kind of things if we get to it right now

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we're you know working to get

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uh irani sasha and andre out of the door

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next week

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and uh continue operations up here

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and we're concentrating on the the

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closest thing or the first thing which

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would be how to complete a full handover

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you know in a less than two weeks when

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dan burbank and his crew come aboard

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because that'll be a shorter handover

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than we've had in uh you know in in

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recent days and there's a lot the space

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station the us os uh part of the station

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has grown a lot since we had those quick

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handovers so we we want to

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you know be as effective as that as

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possible the next step is how to hand

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over to him when we don't do it face to

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hey mark if i could just add um you know

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the science operations on board are

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going full

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speed ahead uh we we are breaking

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records every week uh with the number of

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hours that we of basically crew uh hours

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of uh scientific research uh which is

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over and above that research that's

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autonomous that doesn't require a crew

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so you know in the unlikely event that

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we do have to unmanned the station there

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will be still be science conducted on

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board it just won't be the crew-based

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science and so uh we are in the full

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utilization mode right now and uh you

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know we are running a sprint pace uh

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thanks very much and i i might just ask

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follow up with mike fossum on the on the

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prospect of having uh three crew on the

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station for longer maybe than

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than you uh anticipated a couple weeks

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ago

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what kinds of demands with a larger

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station are you going to face

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mark i don't have any concerns about

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that law we've i mean ron and his crew

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and the one the the crews that come

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before us have left it in good shape so

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there's there there are no big things

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hanging out there that i consider to be

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an issue uh the the three of us that

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will remain here uh when these guys head

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home i have talked about it all and you

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know we're going to be busy we we came

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here to be busy and we're used to it uh

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we're we're completely

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uh you know acclimatized to living here

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and working here we've learned almost

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everything from ron and i have his cell

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phone number so i know how to get a hold

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of him you know after he gets home to

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say wow i never found out where where is

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this

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those kind of things so we're ready to

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take over and i have no concerns at all

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the

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going to take a higher percentage of our

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time

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than it does right now with uh spreading

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that work amongst two people satoshi

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furukawa and myself

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instead of three

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for the part of the station for which

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we're responsible but we're working at a

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station this is houston acr that

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concludes questions from jsc

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please stand by for a voice check from

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station this is kscpao how do you hear

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ksc we hear you loud and clear it's good

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to talk to everybody at the kennedy

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space center today welcome aboard the

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hello this is marcia dunham the

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associated press um a couple of

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questions number one

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for mike i guess

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are you still going home in november is

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that your latest plan when is the most

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tentative launch date that you've heard

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of the new crew coming up what's the

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latest you've got

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and what do you both see is the weak

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links on the space station if it did

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hey marcia a bunch of great questions uh

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right now the current plans are for us

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to go home on time middle of november it

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could be slipped a couple of days easily

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later than that starts to get hard

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because of lighting

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and much later than that gets hard also

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because of the landing conditions in

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kazakhstan which can be very severe in

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the wintertime and the whole crew

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rotation schedule is actually set up to

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avoid that

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and so but again the plans are for us to

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head home in in mid-november

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and uh if things hold their tentative

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plans and they're very tentative at this

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point or for the next crew to launch on

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about november 2nd or

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around november 2nd to come up but they

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the investigation is still ongoing for

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what happened with the soyuz booster

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and the whole

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the whole path from here to launching

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humans

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there's a number of steps along the way

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finding the problem fixing the problem

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having a one or two

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test launches of unmanned progress

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vehicle possibly a satellite using the

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same booster before we put people on it

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there's a lot of things that have to

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oh and i'm sorry marsha i miss what what

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kind of things do we think we would need

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to do to prepare the space station for

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uh to be

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unmanned for a period of time

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again we're not

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tied into those meetings and stuff we

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have our work to do right here as the

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experts on the ground really hash that

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out but it will involve things like

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every every module has you know a hatch

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on each side of that interface between

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the different modules on the station

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there's also valves to allow

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coolant water and and airflow and things

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like that i think we'll be doing things

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like closing the hatches

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and preparing the maybe sealing the

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airflow because they just don't need to

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be moving air around the station and

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that way if we took had a small leak

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somewhere it wouldn't uh it wouldn't

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depressurize you know the whole stack

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uh thank you for that actually my second

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part of that question was what you both

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see as the wink weak links what you know

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um the couple of things that would

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really worry you if that might have more

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of a tendency to to break down with

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that's hard to say i think the the

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folks in the program office would be

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better uh better suited to answer that

550
00:21:18,789 --> 00:21:16,799
but it's things like the pump module

551
00:21:21,190 --> 00:21:18,799
that failed a year ago

552
00:21:23,190 --> 00:21:21,200
and uh required an extensive for what

553
00:21:25,350 --> 00:21:23,200
three evas to go out and swap out the

554
00:21:27,990 --> 00:21:25,360
new pump module that's important because

555
00:21:29,669 --> 00:21:28,000
that failure of that one component

556
00:21:32,630 --> 00:21:29,679
takes out half of the cooling on the

557
00:21:35,190 --> 00:21:32,640
space station which limits uh you know

558
00:21:37,029 --> 00:21:35,200
puts you in a kind of a precarious

559
00:21:39,029 --> 00:21:37,039
situation where you don't have the kind

560
00:21:41,669 --> 00:21:39,039
of fault tolerance or or remain

561
00:21:44,789 --> 00:21:41,679
redundancy there's a lot of things if

562
00:21:46,789 --> 00:21:44,799
the crew is here to to take the action

563
00:21:48,870 --> 00:21:46,799
to do the recovery it's no big deal to

564
00:21:52,070 --> 00:21:48,880
be down something like a pump module for

565
00:21:54,390 --> 00:21:52,080
a week or so as you get your plans

566
00:21:55,590 --> 00:21:54,400
together and and and take care of the

567
00:21:57,909 --> 00:21:55,600
problem

568
00:22:00,390 --> 00:21:57,919
it it can become a bigger deal over a

569
00:22:02,789 --> 00:22:00,400
period of time as more things have the

570
00:22:05,029 --> 00:22:02,799
opportunity to stack up against you so a

571
00:22:07,029 --> 00:22:05,039
short gap you know not a big deal but

572
00:22:08,549 --> 00:22:07,039
i've seen some of the same same reports

573
00:22:11,750 --> 00:22:08,559
that that you and your comrades have

574
00:22:13,990 --> 00:22:11,760
written as as that that short gap turns

575
00:22:16,310 --> 00:22:14,000
into you know many months then your

576
00:22:18,149 --> 00:22:16,320
probabilities start to stack up uh

577
00:22:20,549 --> 00:22:18,159
against you and it leads toward a

578
00:22:22,070 --> 00:22:20,559
greater possibility that that

579
00:22:23,270 --> 00:22:22,080
that we would have a problem up here

580
00:22:25,350 --> 00:22:23,280
that became

581
00:22:30,470 --> 00:22:25,360
you know very significant with no nobody

582
00:22:35,350 --> 00:22:32,310
good morning it's peter king with cbs

583
00:22:36,950 --> 00:22:35,360
radio news and uh for either or both of

584
00:22:39,350 --> 00:22:36,960
you we're told the station of course is

585
00:22:42,390 --> 00:22:39,360
well supplied especially after the 135

586
00:22:45,190 --> 00:22:42,400
flight but i'm just wondering if you all

587
00:22:47,669 --> 00:22:45,200
have begun cutting back on anything or

588
00:22:49,990 --> 00:22:47,679
making plans to cut back on anything in

589
00:22:51,750 --> 00:22:50,000
anticipation of

590
00:22:56,630 --> 00:22:51,760
stretching out those supplies for any

591
00:23:01,029 --> 00:22:59,510
no no peter from uh from a uh supply

592
00:23:02,870 --> 00:23:01,039
point of view we really are in good

593
00:23:04,390 --> 00:23:02,880
shape we've got uh you know a lot of

594
00:23:05,990 --> 00:23:04,400
water on board we've got a lot of food

595
00:23:08,789 --> 00:23:06,000
on board we've got a lot of what we call

596
00:23:11,430 --> 00:23:08,799
consumables on board um and so we're in

597
00:23:13,510 --> 00:23:11,440
really good shape um so we're the normal

598
00:23:14,789 --> 00:23:13,520
consumption rate that we've uh

599
00:23:16,870 --> 00:23:14,799
been uh

600
00:23:18,789 --> 00:23:16,880
using all along we're still using that

601
00:23:20,870 --> 00:23:18,799
we haven't gotten to the point yet where

602
00:23:23,590 --> 00:23:20,880
we really need to start

603
00:23:25,990 --> 00:23:23,600
conserving and and um you know

604
00:23:27,270 --> 00:23:26,000
trying to trying to you know what if the

605
00:23:28,870 --> 00:23:27,280
possibilities out there because we

606
00:23:30,470 --> 00:23:28,880
really have already done that we've

607
00:23:33,990 --> 00:23:30,480
already that that was one of the whole

608
00:23:36,070 --> 00:23:34,000
reasons we wanted to fly sts-135 so

609
00:23:37,590 --> 00:23:36,080
so much is because you know we wanted to

610
00:23:39,270 --> 00:23:37,600
be in a position if something happened

611
00:23:41,669 --> 00:23:39,280
that we would we'd have everything on

612
00:23:43,190 --> 00:23:41,679
board that we needed and uh

613
00:23:45,909 --> 00:23:43,200
we did fly that mission and we've got

614
00:23:50,390 --> 00:23:45,919
all those supplies on board and we

615
00:23:53,350 --> 00:23:52,549
hey guys it's bill harwood with cbs with

616
00:23:55,029 --> 00:23:53,360
uh

617
00:23:56,950 --> 00:23:55,039
just one quick one from me you know this

618
00:23:58,549 --> 00:23:56,960
all this talk of demanding the station

619
00:24:00,070 --> 00:23:58,559
has kind of taken me back a little bit

620
00:24:02,310 --> 00:24:00,080
just because given the history of the

621
00:24:03,750 --> 00:24:02,320
soyuz one of the most reliable rockets

622
00:24:05,269 --> 00:24:03,760
in the world it seems

623
00:24:06,789 --> 00:24:05,279
almost inconceivable that they wouldn't

624
00:24:09,590 --> 00:24:06,799
get this resolved

625
00:24:10,950 --> 00:24:09,600
by november how realistic do you guys

626
00:24:13,029 --> 00:24:10,960
think and i realize you don't have an

627
00:24:14,549 --> 00:24:13,039
answer to this but how realistic is the

628
00:24:16,149 --> 00:24:14,559
demanding thing or do you think that's

629
00:24:17,430 --> 00:24:16,159
really not

630
00:24:26,630 --> 00:24:17,440
probably not going to happen i'm just

631
00:24:30,230 --> 00:24:28,390
hey bill well you you've been around

632
00:24:32,549 --> 00:24:30,240
this business that shoot longer than i

633
00:24:33,909 --> 00:24:32,559
have it you know and you know that it's

634
00:24:35,430 --> 00:24:33,919
a complicated thing when you've got a

635
00:24:37,750 --> 00:24:35,440
problem with a right where it stops

636
00:24:40,310 --> 00:24:37,760
functioning you know in flight uh it

637
00:24:42,549 --> 00:24:40,320
shuts down you know that's a big deal uh

638
00:24:44,549 --> 00:24:42,559
and so you know we're not part of that

639
00:24:46,149 --> 00:24:44,559
investigation but but you know what's

640
00:24:48,149 --> 00:24:46,159
going on they're going through that that

641
00:24:50,390 --> 00:24:48,159
rockets had hundreds of successful

642
00:24:52,230 --> 00:24:50,400
launches without problem and so you go

643
00:24:53,669 --> 00:24:52,240
in and you look and say what changed you

644
00:24:55,350 --> 00:24:53,679
know there's not a fundamental design

645
00:24:57,590 --> 00:24:55,360
flaw with the with the rocket it's

646
00:24:59,750 --> 00:24:57,600
worked great so what has changed that's

647
00:25:01,430 --> 00:24:59,760
the first thing you look for it was it a

648
00:25:03,909 --> 00:25:01,440
hardware change a component change or

649
00:25:05,590 --> 00:25:03,919
was it a process change you hope to find

650
00:25:07,830 --> 00:25:05,600
something in those arenas that's where

651
00:25:09,350 --> 00:25:07,840
you usually do find it if those things

652
00:25:11,430 --> 00:25:09,360
don't pop out though

653
00:25:13,590 --> 00:25:11,440
then you start looking at harder things

654
00:25:16,789 --> 00:25:13,600
and that gets to be a lot muddier and

655
00:25:18,549 --> 00:25:16,799
harder to solve in the weeks that we

656
00:25:20,149 --> 00:25:18,559
have or months you know just a few

657
00:25:21,909 --> 00:25:20,159
months we have to solve it before it's

658
00:25:23,909 --> 00:25:21,919
it's my time to go home

659
00:25:25,990 --> 00:25:23,919
and so the possibilities there and

660
00:25:27,590 --> 00:25:26,000
there's a lot of a lot of details we

661
00:25:29,430 --> 00:25:27,600
have to work out

662
00:25:31,750 --> 00:25:29,440
before we get there and that's why the

663
00:25:35,110 --> 00:25:31,760
teams on the ground are are pushing hard

664
00:25:36,630 --> 00:25:35,120
to come up with plans again the the the

665
00:25:37,909 --> 00:25:36,640
ones i think we're going to use are the

666
00:25:39,750 --> 00:25:37,919
ones where

667
00:25:41,350 --> 00:25:39,760
short hand over how do you train people

668
00:25:42,870 --> 00:25:41,360
to do all the hands-on stuff that we do

669
00:25:44,549 --> 00:25:42,880
in a short amount of time

670
00:25:46,149 --> 00:25:44,559
and but that you've got to start working

671
00:25:50,549 --> 00:25:46,159
ahead you have to start working right

672
00:25:55,669 --> 00:25:53,990
it's peter king at cbs with one last one

673
00:25:57,269 --> 00:25:55,679
we're in a tough political climate where

674
00:25:59,510 --> 00:25:57,279
everybody is counting every dime and

675
00:26:01,669 --> 00:25:59,520
every dollar uh and i'm just wondering

676
00:26:04,230 --> 00:26:01,679
if either of you are worried that uh

677
00:26:06,470 --> 00:26:04,240
leaving the station uncrewed might have

678
00:26:08,630 --> 00:26:06,480
the politicians thinking about

679
00:26:09,990 --> 00:26:08,640
permanently calling it quits and saying

680
00:26:15,909 --> 00:26:10,000
you know we really don't need to be

681
00:26:18,870 --> 00:26:17,510
yeah peter um

682
00:26:22,789 --> 00:26:18,880
you know

683
00:26:26,230 --> 00:26:22,799
however

684
00:26:27,750 --> 00:26:26,240
you know what i can say is that

685
00:26:29,590 --> 00:26:27,760
you know the money that has been spent

686
00:26:31,430 --> 00:26:29,600
on the international space station is

687
00:26:33,430 --> 00:26:31,440
probably and i think history will prove

688
00:26:36,230 --> 00:26:33,440
this is the best investment in our

689
00:26:38,870 --> 00:26:36,240
future that we have ever made uh so you

690
00:26:41,269 --> 00:26:38,880
know the the the money that has been

691
00:26:43,909 --> 00:26:41,279
invested will be returned or you know

692
00:26:45,029 --> 00:26:43,919
many many times over in new material new

693
00:26:47,830 --> 00:26:45,039
medicines

694
00:26:49,669 --> 00:26:47,840
uh just improved life on earth uh not to

695
00:26:51,430 --> 00:26:49,679
mention you know the stepping stone to

696
00:26:53,830 --> 00:26:51,440
explore the rest of the solar system uh

697
00:26:57,590 --> 00:26:53,840
that this is a very critical link uh to

698
00:26:59,830 --> 00:26:57,600
doing that so um you know i think

699
00:27:01,510 --> 00:26:59,840
that you know if if we get to the point

700
00:27:03,750 --> 00:27:01,520
where we we have to unman the space

701
00:27:05,510 --> 00:27:03,760
station uh i hope you know that we've

702
00:27:07,510 --> 00:27:05,520
already demonstrated at that point you

703
00:27:08,710 --> 00:27:07,520
know how valuable this is this global

704
00:27:10,950 --> 00:27:08,720
asset is

705
00:27:13,190 --> 00:27:10,960
uh and i i would hope there'd be an

706
00:27:15,590 --> 00:27:13,200
uproar about you know keeping it manned

707
00:27:17,029 --> 00:27:15,600
and making sure that we get that return

708
00:27:19,430 --> 00:27:17,039
on investment because if we're not here

709
00:27:20,389 --> 00:27:19,440
to utilize what we've already invested

710
00:27:22,389 --> 00:27:20,399
the money in

711
00:27:23,909 --> 00:27:22,399
then we've wasted that investment so i

712
00:27:25,350 --> 00:27:23,919
think it's you know really important at

713
00:27:26,870 --> 00:27:25,360
this point i think mike had some words

714
00:27:28,389 --> 00:27:26,880
he wanted to add his okay you got it

715
00:27:32,310 --> 00:27:28,399
okay

716
00:27:37,990 --> 00:27:34,149
station this is houston acr that

717
00:27:42,470 --> 00:27:39,909
thank you to johnson and kennedy space

718
00:27:43,909 --> 00:27:42,480
centers iss will now be resuming

719
00:27:48,470 --> 00:27:43,919
operational space to ground